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D4 2T steering clutch crank bearings

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4 years 2 months ago #220455 by rax200
Photo of said roller assy and race to fit



Regards

Daryl

1937 RD4 4G4368
1940 D4 7J3717
1942 D4 7J9915SP
1942 R4 6G2550SP
1944 D4 2T6584SP
1945 D4 2T8978SP
1946 D4 5T6271
1956 D4 7U37855
1954 DH226 S/N 89 Howard Tug
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4 years 2 months ago #220458 by Deebo

I posted these as stand alone posts on the 06/21/20--seems I waste my time doing this stuff--I simply used the Advanced Search function to find them.

www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?34190-Ca...ng+conversion+charts

www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?34191-Ca...roller+bearing+chart


You people need to take heed that one day you may need this stuff so, simply save it to your computers for future reference and so save yourselves some time and trouble.
Regards,
Eddie B.


Don’t know how I missed this one, Eddie, like Neil I’ve tried to save everything you post, it’s so valuable for us. Please keep it up! And a thousand apologies..

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4 years 2 months ago #220459 by Deebo

Photo of said roller assy and race to fit



Regards


Great stuff, thanks for the info and photos!

Tony

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4 years 2 months ago #220460 by Rome K/G
Sorry my clutch slipped, lol, thought they used the thick bushing, they updated to the thin ones now, easier to remove to.

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4 years 2 months ago #220465 by ccjersey
Any way to drill for a grease fitting to allow relube of the roller bearings in the future?

D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time:D

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4 years 2 months ago #220466 by Rome K/G
Sure just thread, 1/4" pipe, into the two small covers on top of the strg clutch cover and install a grease fitting in each.

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4 years 2 months ago #220469 by Old Magnet
Not that easy, still need a seal of some sort, maybe o-ring to direct grease or oil to the bearings otherwise it will just flow out of the gap between the cover and the bearings. That being said anything is an improvement over no lube now.

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4 years 2 months ago #220483 by Deebo
Interesting to note the country of origin of the new CAT bearing and race is China. I’ve not seen any CAT parts I’ve purchased made there before. Got a Japanese bearing from them once. Wonder if it’s going to happen more and more. Guess it’s the way of the world. I’ll maybe try and source NOS or Old World made bearings if that’s possible these days. I noticed there was a grease hole in the race but that must be for another use.

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4 years 2 months ago #220501 by Mike Meyer
When I did my D4 7J I found NOS needle bearings from a bearing supplier 2 hours away, they are out there, just need the right parts person to look for you.

I assume you tried Florin Tractor Parts already?

My 75 year old old Mechanic buddy Joe told me a interesting story about oriental bearings, he has done a lot of Cat repairs over the years, on hundreds of machines of all sizes, he did a D2 years ago and for the first time used bearings supplied by the local bearing shop to rebuild the final drives and cross shaft, usually he always used Cat bearings but the Dealer is 1,000 miles away and time was tight to get the tractor done, so he used the oriental made bearings supplied by the bearing shop.

He always test drives machines he has worked on, he said he got 100 yards up the track from his workshop when the back end of the D2 locked up, one of the aftermarket bearings had collapsed, and when he went back to the bearing shop to complain about having to pull the machine apart a second time, they told him he must of screwed up fitting them, needless to say that was the last time he used non Cat bearings on a customers machine.

It might cost $200 more on a old Cat to use proper Cat bearings over aftermarket, but it used to be that was money well spent for piece of mind, but with so much stuff being made in China and India these days, I'm not so confident that extra cost is worth it. Obviously there are some very good oriental bearing makers, as good as anyone in the world, but there are also some very poor quality bearings out there too, from oriental suppliers.

In my D4 7J rebuild I was supplied steering clutch thrust bearings made by a company in Turkey by the well known aftermarket parts supplier here in Oz, when I questioned them at the time they said they had received no complaints about them, but I couldn't help thinking how many had they actually sold till then, maybe mine were the first set out the door, interestingly that tractor has a noisier thrust bearing on one side!

I had to rebuild the water pump on the D2 and decided to save a few bucks and buy Cat Classic Parts bearings for the job, they were about half the price, like $15 each compared to $38 each for regular Cat bearings, but when I got the new bearings I immediately noticed they had 2 fewer balls in them, like 7 balls instead of 9, and I thought Mike, do you really want to risk seeing a spinning radiator fan go flying out the side of that D2 spearing someone standing nearby?????

NUP, so I put those Cat Classic bearings on my shelf and ordered Cat regular bearings and fitted them, I'll do you a cheap deal on those Cat Classic bearings Tony, they haven't done any work.....

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4 years 2 months ago #220502 by Deebo
Interesting stuff, Mike, given it takes a while to take these machines apart I’ll definitely try and get NOS or at least Old World bearings. My Florin list is growing every day it seems.. Strange also that the rod end has ovalised on mine so there’s a fair amount of slop at the crank. Looking at the parts catalog and then taking it apart I assumed I’d find the bush is worn but it is the rod end. Strange when there’s a bush there I thought that would be the sacrificial part and easy to change out. The bush is nice and round. Doesn’t seem to be much material on the rod end to sleeve so maybe I’ll have to accept it. Seems a shame when there’ll be new bearings, races and cranks.. might have to add rods to the Florin list if they’re available, d’oh..

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