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D7 17a

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2 years 11 months ago #231931 by edb
Replied by edb on topic D7 17a
Hi Team,
here is a June 30, 1954, Service Mag. article on the tapered end driver pin you ask about--it is used for D7 & D8 master pins of a type I never saw in my 43 years at the Cat Dealer.
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Eddie B.
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2 years 11 months ago #231939 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic D7 17a
Most of those old plug type pins have been replaced with solid master pins.

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2 years 11 months ago #231946 by neil
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Interesting that the D7 pins have a taper only on one end whereas the D2 has them both ends. I guess having a taper on one end makes them 50% easier to remove than a fully solid pin?

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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2 years 11 months ago #231977 by Dieselholic92
Replied by Dieselholic92 on topic D7 17a
I had to get these missing drawings from Caterpillar to give to my machine shop to make the tool.

 

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D4 5T, D6 2H, D6 9U, D7 17A, No. 12 70D, 12E, 922B, 922B

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2 years 11 months ago - 2 years 11 months ago #231978 by Dieselholic92
Replied by Dieselholic92 on topic D7 17a

(Sorry for hijacking the post).
I have a question for anyone that knows how to interpret the drawings. On the drawing for 5H2176 with the tapered protrusion, the end view shows a diameter for the tapered piece of .990 and .988 (so 2 thou difference). Is that the diameter at the gage line indicated, or at the tip (minus the chamfer)? I think it's the gage line which means from there, it tapers thinner at 5/8 per foot.
For the 1/4 between the gage line and the 1 1/2 in end of the main shaft, does the taper continure for another 1/8 until it enters the radius? When it says "do not center this end", does it mean to not put a "divot" in the end for like a Morse taper?
For this tool, since its diameter is 1 3/4, it's not intended to fit into the sleeve, so I'd guess that it is intended for installation of the pin, not removal?

For the 4H8770 which is the tube that the pin fits into, it doesn't show the diameter, but it obviously needs to have an ID bigger than the driver that fits into it. How much total clearance would folks give for the ID, given that the 4H8766 drawing seems to show a 1.210 to 1.220 diameter if I'm reading it correctly? Would 005 be enough to slide easily but not wobble? The tube looks to have a 1/8 wall thickness and I'd think a piece of DOM would suit?
The actual diameters I'd need to modify to suit the D2 pins which are 1.125 whereas it looks like the 17A has 1.250 pins but the clearance could probably be the same.
I'll take measurements from the D2 this weekend to adjust the drawing dimensions as appropriate.

Dieselholic, could you tell me what the text says about the use of the tool. Is the 5H2176 just for installing the master pin, and does the pilot fit in a tapered plug pin? __PRESENT

So I just posted two more drawings right above this that hopefully answer your question about the tube portion of the tool.

As far as the tapered end of the pin, I have no idea. The Caterpillar Service manual that I have doesn't mention or show the use of the tapered end.


 


D4 5T, D6 2H, D6 9U, D7 17A, No. 12 70D, 12E, 922B, 922B

www.dandgexcavating.com
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2 years 11 months ago #231981 by neil
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Thanks Dieselholic, I combined them all, including the picture of it in use, into one pdf__PRESENT

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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