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D4 hydraulic question

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1 year 11 months ago #241020 by toddsmith23
Hello -
My recently acquired D4 7U needs a bit of hydraulic maintenance and i have a couple questions. The hydraulic system is saturated with water, and needs to be drained, flushed and filter changed. I'm also building a new set of 4k hoses for it.

The hydraulic pump and reservoir is located on the front of the tractor on the radiator. I don't see anything resembling a hydraulic filter, other than the screen on the oil fill. I do see a 4-hole plate on the bottom of the tank, is this where the filter is located?

Can i safely use diesel to flush and clean the tank, pump out and cylinders out? I know diesel isn't suitable in newer pumps which is why i ask.  Any advise flushing all this milk out would be appreciated. I'm starting by dumping as much out of the tank... but there'll still be a fair amount left i'm sure.

Appreciate any advice
Todd
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1 year 11 months ago #241024 by josh
Replied by josh on topic D4 hydraulic question
Since you are going to put new hoses on it, it would be relatively easy to completely drain the system. I would drain the tank then pull the front cover off to inspect and clean the interior, Cat still has the gasket, don't know about the filter, I would also pull off the hydraulic cylinders and position them so they can drain completely, it may take a couple days of tipping them back and forth and allowing them to drain, trying to flush out a partly filled contaminated system is nearly impossible to really get it clean.
That four hole plate on the bottom is where the filter lives.
The seal where the control lever shaft goes in to the top of the unit, is often where water gets in and may need to be replaced.
If you post the serial number of the hydraulic control unit, we may be able to tell you which filter it uses.

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1 year 11 months ago #241038 by josh
Replied by josh on topic D4 hydraulic question
A couple other notes on the hydraulics, the filtering system is not a full flow system, it only filters a small portion of the flow, most of the oil just bypasses the filter and the system relies on crud settling out at the bottom of the tank and the two drain plugs on the bottom have magnets on them to collect metal.
These hydraulic units can last a long time, but it is critical to keep them full of clean dry oil.

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1 year 11 months ago #241039 by toddsmith23
Replied by toddsmith23 on topic D4 hydraulic question
Josh - This is very helpful information. I didn't want to start removing nuts & bolts without understanding the system a bit more. What is the capacity of the tank? I'm guessing i can expect a few gallons of drainage to be prepared for...?

Regarding the cylinders, do you see a problem with rinsing with diesel? I can't see an issue with the seals, but i've been wrong before.

Thanks for the education!

 

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1 year 11 months ago #241044 by josh
Replied by josh on topic D4 hydraulic question
Rinsing with diesel should not be a problem, the tank holds 5 gallons, maybe another couple more in the cylinders and lines.
The only way water could get in is through that seal or if the fill cap is off.

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1 year 11 months ago #241047 by toddsmith23
Replied by toddsmith23 on topic D4 hydraulic question
Thanks! FYI - the serial number on the hydraulic unit is 7V-6900. Possible to find the seal part number along with filter based on the serial number?

Would the part numbers be in the D4 parts manual? I just purchased the parts, operator and service manual which should be in my possession in a week or so.

Thanks
 

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1 year 11 months ago #241052 by josh
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That Hydraulic control unit uses the 2A5886 filter element, which is available and cheap, and the seal is a 5F1677.

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1 year 11 months ago #241053 by toddsmith23
Replied by toddsmith23 on topic D4 hydraulic question
Thanks for the part numbers!! I don't suppose you know what the part # is for the cover gasket....? (looking forward to getting the parts manual!!)

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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #241055 by phildirt
Replied by phildirt on topic D4 hydraulic question
Todd -
You need Form 31677-1, Operation and Maintenance Instruction - No. 44 Hydraulic Control:

 
 
You may also want Form 32856, No. 44 Hydraulic Control Parts Catalog:

 

The D-4 tractor book does not cover attachments like the # 44.

Will
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1 year 11 months ago #241056 by josh
Replied by josh on topic D4 hydraulic question
Gasket is 4F4217, Parts catalog that covers 7V6900 on a D4, form 31264 and there are others.

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