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cat D13000 injector nut stuck to nozzel.

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3 years 7 months ago #225738 by phunguy1976
Anyone have an idea how to separate a D13000 injector nozzle and nut holding it into the head? i can only turn the nut and nozzle a few degrees before nozzle fuel tube hits head bolts. i have been putting krel oil in it for weeks. Also tried heating gently. Thoughts?

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3 years 7 months ago #225739 by phunguy1976
FYI- this is a 1952 D8 2U

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3 years 7 months ago - 3 years 7 months ago #225774 by edb
Hi Team,
sometimes a few raps with a soft metal drift on the retaining nut top and available flats, side on, can loosen the rust--as you can see in the scan the clearances for dirt and rust buildup are close but not usually so close as to be a great issue unless the engine bonnet had been off and or the cork gasket under the dirt cover/shield has been damaged and /or missing then it gets harder.
About the only parts available would be the cork gasket and the copper washers for the drain line banjo bolts these days.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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3 years 7 months ago #225775 by Rome K/G
Raccoons will leave a nice pile of $#% on top of the injectors and really turn everything into a real rusted up mess.
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3 years 7 months ago - 3 years 7 months ago #225776 by Old Magnet
Are you working the retainer nut with the proper cut away socket? Not the chisel method I hope.
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3 years 7 months ago #225820 by phunguy1976
Hi-
Thanks for the reply's. I have the correct cutaway socket. I also made a conversion tool so I can use my 3/4 inch drive impact wrench. I have heated with a propane torch (fear of damage from acetylene), I have taped with a hammer and ball-peen hammer on teh flats. I have soaked in Kreil oil and I have taken off the valves and valve cover risers to allow more rotation of the injector nozzle. This allows for 2/3 of a rotation before the nozzle nipple hits the head bolts. When turned to the max I have tried using a block of wood and hammer to drive the injector nozzel down ward in hope of separating it from the nut.
I have all the parts except for a new nozzle. I am trying to replace the o-ring on the precombustion chamber since coolant is leaking out around the injector.tube and nut. I am out of ideas. Any thoughts. Thanks

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3 years 7 months ago #225822 by phunguy1976
At this point I am worried I will have to pull the head in order to remove the nut and injector tube in one piece. Anything short of that would be an improvement..

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3 years 7 months ago #225823 by Rome K/G
Can you post a photo of that injector nozzle?
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3 years 7 months ago #225826 by Old Magnet
There is a lot of grip area between the retaining nut and the injector. May wind up having to sacrifice the injector.
 
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3 years 7 months ago #225834 by neil
Can you remove only the head bolts that are in the way? Even better if they're studs; you can back the entire stud out by jamming two nuts. Would that give enough room to spin 360?

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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