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3 years 11 months ago #222371
by neil
If you wanted to get extra handy, you could put the adjustable arm on a sliding bracket around the other arm and have a spring-loaded pin that drops in as you pull it straight : ) Probably easier to just use the turnbuckle if it's strong enough
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #222372
by Mike Meyer
Thanks for the photo's Herb, now I can see what you are talking about, you are on the right track, and I agree about the weight comment, it's needs to be easily handled by one person.
Hello Neil, yes, those tow frames are still used here on occasion, but I don't see them as often as I used to, no doubt the Cops and insurance companies are less inclined to turn a blind eye to these home made set ups!
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Mike
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #222374
by edb
Hi Team,
another adaption I think I saw on the A frame type was that the swinging arm was length adjustable so you could off set the tow points some.
Something like a piece of pipe with lock pin holes spaced every so often and a inner sliding rod lock pin holed accordingly---picture a link rod on a Motor Grader blade lift assembly--but a bit lighter as those things attract fair amount of gravity.
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Eddie B.
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3 years 11 months ago #222375
by Mike Meyer
That would work Eddie, what ever is used, it needs to be robust, those dead Cats can be hard to change direction on as you know, OK if it's a straight push backwards.
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #222381
by Mike Meyer
I just dragged some scrap steel out of the pile, I'm sure I'll be able to create something adequate, you will get a idea of what I was talking about with my "T" shaped bar, obviously that is not a finished product.
And for "Neil" a photo of a frame made by my best buddy Gwyn 50 years ago, he had a draw frame mounted on the front of his old Series 1 Landrover when I was driving it as a 10 year old with no functioning brakes or clutch, but the V frame in the photo he used when nutting bull calves in the cattle yards, to spread their back legs.
I'm sure Gwyn would get a good chuckle watching me from above recreate something suitable for moving dead Cats out of that bull frame, because when I first bought this home farm 20 years ago he asked me if there was any scrap steel laying about and I replied no, there wasn't even a rusty nail to puncture a tire, "I'll bring you some lad, you have to have some scrap steel laying around for repairing farm equipment".
And he did, he drove his old Nissan pickup 400 miles over to our place with about 2 tons of scrap steel in the back from his farm, to get me started, and now with all my dead Cats sitting around I've probably grown that 2 tons to over 100 tons of scrap steel, if you ask Anna the Saint!! LOL
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3 years 11 months ago #222386
by neil
Got to have some scrap lying around or you're not a real farmer ; ) As I recall, and this was before drawbars had to be certified, the a-frame on the front of the Mazda B2200 etc. was made out of 2" box steel with 1/2 flat for the tongue and tabs. Some kind of angle iron arrangement on the front of the truck, and I can't quite remember what was used to store it in the up position when driving.
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3 years 11 months ago #222394
by Ray54
Several old time families have sold off their land here and every scrap of anything has been cleaned. As Mike said not a bent nail left. Makes me very sad. Takes all the life out of a old farmstead to me anyway. A bare house left, could be planted on any lot in town. Doesn't even help to be the one that hauled most of it home.(I still want emojis back)
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3 years 11 months ago #222404
by kittyman1
just throwing another tidbit in the mix....don't forget the strength of a triangle...probably the best bang for buck when it comes to strength,weight, and simplicity....look at Nascar/ NHRA roll cages...a mess of triangles for the most part....
ya what happened to the emojis??
Greatest Lie told to mankind: just give us 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #222405
by Mike Meyer
Emoji's are in the mail, USPS were given the responsibility of delivering them......... LOL
Yes, triangles are strong, though must keep in mind the twisting forces involved shunting a dead Cat sideways, even a small one, it would be a shame to bust the drawbar brackets getting a little too excited, just like so many radiator support brackets broken trying to drag start a dead Cat.
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3 years 11 months ago #222408
by hfdzl
I think after all the discussion and my shade tree engineering, I am just going to use 2 pieces of pipe with heavy flat tabs welded on with a hole in it. The adjustable type was to make up for a off angle between the loader and Cat. Now I believe as long as I can get a pull on the Cat,get it straight, then I can put the a-frame tow bar on. Can build in some slop to help aligning the pins.
Thank you everyone for your knowledge,
Herb
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