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D2 no start .... now started with blown head gasket

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4 years 1 month ago #221269 by TOGNOT
Thanks Andrew - I’m sure i can find one up here in the states, but i would like to see a picture of the one with a nut welded to it as i may try this my self.

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4 years 1 month ago #221326 by Andrew
Photos of 5 3/4" pre. cups with nuts welded to facilitate removal.
These came with a parts lot I bought a while ago.
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4 years 1 month ago #221369 by TOGNOT
Thanks for digging those up and taking the pic. Ill follow up with what ever works on this end.

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4 years 3 weeks ago #221879 by TOGNOT
Replied by TOGNOT on topic Stuck pre chamber
I have been working on getting the suspected bad prechamber out. Apparently it likes where it resides now and has no desire to vacate.I welded a bolt into the PC hoping i could unscrew it wit impact gun or cheater bar. Nope.
I spent a couple hours today drilling out the threaded end of the PC. The remaining material is very thin. I heated up the threaded area ( again) and tried a breaker/ cheater bar. Nope.

I assume the PC is rusted to the head where there are no threads. My next thought is a truck stop with 1” impact air guns ?

:juggle::juggle:
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4 years 3 weeks ago #221882 by Rome K/G
"You've got to use the big guns!"
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4 years 3 weeks ago #221884 by edb
Replied by edb on topic Security Screw
Hi Team,
on these older engines Cat used an Allen head set screw screwed into the side of the cyl head as an extra security to hold the pre-chambers in place during service.
P/No 4B9746.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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4 years 3 weeks ago #221888 by TOGNOT
Edb, thanks - another pointed that out and I removed the screw. BUT - i realize now that it too was rusted down to almost nothing on its tip that extended into the prechamber. Tommorw ill run a drill in there and make sure none of it is left against the PC. :laser:

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4 years 3 weeks ago #221893 by neil
On my 3J, the set screws are there, but they're short of the chamber so don't actually retain it. I think the previous owner had them in there to fill the hole

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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4 years 3 weeks ago #221901 by edb
Replied by edb on topic Pre-chamber Retention Screws
Hi Team,
I believe that over time it was found that the screws were not necessary, also there were likely many chambers ruined by people drilling thru the chamber when drilling a new lock position for the screws after the chamber had located in a new position after removal and refitting.

I was taught to cut the screws short at the Dealer back in the day.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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4 years 3 weeks ago #221902 by Old Magnet
This has been tackled before on here, unfortunately no thread size was mentioned. If my memory is correct it might have been "Steven" on here.
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