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4 years 5 months ago #215405
by edb
Hi Team,
seems the pages for the 22 clutch were short of a 3rd page that covered the single bolt sliding adjustment for the clutch brake to follow up the wear od the main clutch disc.
Link below has the OMI that you should be able to get the needed info from--alas I cannot post any more pix since last BB upgrade.
www.angelfire.com/home/cat22/book/manual.html
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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4 years 5 months ago #215420
by Steve A
Big or small Twenty
I have a big 20 all apart now and it is very different than a small 20 as far as the clutch and clutch brake, I can post some good pictures of the big 20 clutch brake later today. I will have lots of big 20 parts for sale if someone needs them including a nice clutch brake.
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4 years 5 months ago #215422
by Steve A
I do not see a way to adjust the position of the clutch brake on a big 20, the casting that holds the clutch brake lining is bolted to the transmission input shaft and should be fixed. In the pic with the brake without a lining the travel of the brass thrust collar was enough to tub metal to metal without a lining. Based on that I would suspect you are not getting full travel of the brass thrust collar maybe due to worn fork or maybe the casting with the lining is loose on the input shaft, wore out the splines and has worked its way back, a 1/4 inch makes a big difference.
I am heavy into a big 20 project building 1 nice wide tractor using 1 1/2 other 20's for parts so I got lots of big 20 parts I would be happy to sell for cheap if picked up, I would ship small stuff to help along someones project.
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4 years 5 months ago #215425
by GrantJ
Steve, there is a guy from Australia looking for some good bottom rollers for a 20. I am parting out L836 but the shutdown has brought me to a halt. If you want, I can PM you his contact. Grant.
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4 years 5 months ago #215426
by neil
That's a cool website Eddie. I enjoyed the various ways people have modified their tractors, especially the drive from the front of the crank to the pump beside the operator! By the way, the website upgrades will take care of the issue with you not being able to upload, but I'm thinking that if you contact Mary, she can have someone take care of it on the current system. Let me know if you need help. We can't not have you being able to share your valuable knowledge! : )
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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4 years 5 months ago #215598
by naylorbros
I am going to be a little more direct here. If you can afford to buy the machine, you can afford to buy the books for the machine. Sometimes you can find a good deal on Ebay, other times from club members and if all else fails Cat will reprint the books for you. Read and study the books like you were going in for a Bar exam. Caterpillar instruction book form # SL991 is an excellent book for the L/PL Twenty going through operation and tear down and repair of the tractor. Now for the measurements on the clutch brake disc taken from Form # SL795 "L663 Facing for flywheel clutch brake. 5 3/4" O.D., 4" I.D., 1/4" thick. 4 countersunk holes on 4 7/8" circle." All of that being said, the pilot bearing on the L/PL twenty has no good means of lubrication except at assembly or repair of the clutch. If the bearing is dry and or the lubrication that is in it is dried up it will cause the clutch to drag and no amount of clutch brake will help fix the problem. The solution is to split the tractor, clean and or replace the bearing, if you can find one, relube the bearing, replace all lining on both the clutch and clutch brake, replace or rebuild all worn parts and be done with it.
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4 years 5 months ago #215614
by neil
Ken, do you think it would be feasible to add a gallery to the flywheel at overhaul time, like the D2 has, to lube the pilot bearing? So long as one had long enough drill bits, and the profile of the flywheel permitted it, seems like it would be doable.
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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4 years 5 months ago #215677
by juiceman
This has become an extremely informative post for myself and Jeff M.
He recently acquired a nice Twenty which has clutch brake issues as well.
Neither of us claim to be mechanics, but with all of this information, it gives us much better idea of what we might be able to do in resolving his issue.
The closest “ old timer” CAT guys around here are an hour away, and don’t really provide anymore mobile wrenching. This may save us a lot of grief if the adjustments can be made without the painstaking effort of transporting his crawler to either of them.
The local dealer is only 10 miles away, but if the “kids” can’t plug into a diagnostic port, they wouldn’t have a clue.
Glad that there are valuable resources here on the BB.
Thanks everyone!
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