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D2 Pony Rod Bearing Clearance

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4 years 6 months ago #214022 by ccjersey
Looks like a good place to use a 10W-30 oil or 0W-30 in cold weather.

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4 years 5 months ago #215368 by Cat Yellow1
Getting ready to put this back together but have a quick question. Doesn't look like a lot of room for a torque wrench in the tight space from the top. Any tricks to get the rod nuts torqued properly?

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4 years 5 months ago #215396 by neil
Replied by neil on topic D2 Pony Rod Bearing Clearance
You can get small torque wrenches. I got a cheap one from HF and it's probably accurate within 100ftlbs but it "felt" close enough and I haven't suffered any blowouts yet : )
You could also just use a regular wrench combined with a linear scale and do the math.

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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4 years 5 months ago #215403 by edb
Hi Team,
if you install the cam gear drive side piston/rod first but leaving the flywheel side main bearing cover off you can get in to the inner rod nuts thru the flywheel side bore using 3/8" drive and universal socket gear.
Put the flywheel side rod/piston in last and you can access the nuts via the main bearing cover opening with the rod at or near BDC.
From memory, the rod nuts on these are around 24lbs/ft which is achievable with a ring open end wrench--the rod castellated nut clevis pin holes will usually align just as you reach the correct torque--it is permissible to go a bit further to align said holes on previously torqued hardware.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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4 years 5 months ago #215419 by Cat Yellow1
Replied by Cat Yellow1 on topic Thanks Guys
Thanks Neil and Eddie. Neil - can you elaborate more about using a linear scale and math? Eddie - that's what I was thinking, as I got the flywheel rod loose through the cover. My torque wrench won't fit in there, so I was planning to torque the nuts to 14 ft/lbs outside of the block and put a wrench on it to get a feel for what 14 lbs felt like with the wrench, but not sure that idea will work like I think it will.

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4 years 5 months ago #215427 by neil
Replied by neil on topic D2 Pony Rod Bearing Clearance
What you can do is get regular 9/16" wrench, then borrow your wife's scale, and find a way to attach it to the end of the wrench. Then measure from the center of the bolt when the wrench is on it out to where you attached the scale. Whatever that distance is in inches, divide 12 by it to get the effective ft-lbs and multiply the result by 14 and that is how many pounds you want to register on the scale as you apply a steady pull at right angles to the wrench. E.g. if your wrench's effective length is 6", then 12/6 x 14 = 28lbs. You want to register a steady pull of 28lbs in order to apply 14 ftlbs to the nuts.

A scale like one of these you can hook to the end of your wrench directly or with a bit of string. Go for a scale that is maybe no more than 70# if you have to buy one. Not always but sometimes as the capacity goes up, the precision goes down. Cheap chinese junk would probably work in this case because I'm pretty sure I've tightened up some of those nuts by "feel" without repercussions

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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4 years 5 months ago #215437 by kittyman1
14 pounds torque is not a lot, not even to apply with a 9/16" wrench by hand...

-you could set up another bolt in a vice etc..., and practice on it, testing with a small torque wrench and that would give you a rough idea..

-is the fastener, actually a bolt that fits thru the rod cap, then threads into the rod, probably aluminum? most 3/8" threads are closer to 30 pounds with oil on threads...

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4 years 5 months ago #215443 by neil
Replied by neil on topic D2 Pony Rod Bearing Clearance
Steel bolt and castellated nut (so get yourself a pair of pointed pliers to finesse the pin in : ) I just have pins from Harbor Freight

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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4 years 5 months ago #215559 by Cat Yellow1
Got the pistons in and was able to fit my torque wrench was able to get to all of the rod nuts with no problem. Couple of questions though...
1) it takes both hands with a firm grip to turn the crank from the flywheel side of the shaft. It's a little easier near BTC. Does this sound right? I was a little concerned because the gap in the rod bearings is .003 but I'm assuming it's normal with the new rings. Thought I'd check though.
2) Unable to locate torque specifications for the crankshaft gear, manifold, and flywheel nut. If anyone has those it would be appreciated.

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4 years 5 months ago #215565 by kittyman1
Replied by kittyman1 on topic Plasti-Gauge

Got the pistons in and was able to fit my torque wrench was able to get to all of the rod nuts with no problem. Couple of questions though...
1) it takes both hands with a firm grip to turn the crank from the flywheel side of the shaft. It's a little easier near BTC. Does this sound right? I was a little concerned because the gap in the rod bearings is .003 but I'm assuming it's normal with the new rings. Thought I'd check though.
2) Unable to locate torque specifications for the crankshaft gear, manifold, and flywheel nut. If anyone has those it would be appreciated.


-did you double check your bearing clearance with plastigauge..?

-i know some people don't like it, but i think it's a quick easy check, double check..

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