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What did you torque the new injector nozzle capsules to when you installed them? or did you just tighten them down?
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. Not sure, would that stop it from firing and or starting????Ok, that checks out, was the turbo replaced? Is it turning or free?
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Your serial # checks out to be a late 1969, 8117 is end of 1969. catskinner
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Hi Team,
as we have no past history on this engine--other than lots of dirt on the engine and me thinking way outside the box here--- BUT, I have come across a few client overhauled D330/D333 engines that were timed 180 out and they exhibited similar hard starting symptoms to this one.
They needed to be heated beyond belief and eventually fired and ran very rattly on the injected residual fuel in the cylinder until enough heat allowed them to run poorly. These D330 family engines needed the engine specific timing fixture to time the Inj. pump--D353 is different.
I have no literature for the D353 BUT, From Memory these engines, as well as the offset tang drive, have a coupling connecting the accessory drive shafts from the rear timing gear train.
In the past I have encountered such style couplings, in other applications, they were found assembled with the drive key in the bolt clamp split and not the provided keyway--I also feel that the drive shafts have grooves cut in the shafts to allow the bolts to be fitted with the coupling only in the correct position and obviously this safety feature would preclude miss-timing happening, BUT stranger things have happened.
I also agree that failed injection pump cam bearings, lifter rollers and or cam lobe face in the high load lift area will retard the timing making starting difficult.
Just came to mind that D8K's had a support ring shrunk onto the cam end to help stop the drive loads from fracturing one of the the slot edges and so cause retarded timing too.
With the shrink ring in place it can be difficult to spot if the slot edge is broken as it is held in place by a lip on the face of the ring.
Well worn drive tang and/or slot will retard timing. This is where Lifter setting on the engine takes out the wear factors.
Sorry hope, to not confuse things more---Just thinking aloud.
Am out again tomorrow so just throwing some ideas before it is too late and the pump is refitted and these things not checked.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Hi Team,
as we have no past history on this engine--other than lots of dirt on the engine and me thinking way outside the box here--- BUT, I have come across a few client overhauled D330/D333 engines that were timed 180 out and they exhibited similar hard starting symptoms to this one.
They needed to be heated beyond belief and eventually fired and ran very rattly on the injected residual fuel in the cylinder until enough heat allowed them to run poorly. These D330 family engines needed the engine specific timing fixture to time the Inj. pump--D353 is different.
I have no literature for the D353 BUT, From Memory these engines, as well as the offset tang drive, have a coupling connecting the accessory drive shafts from the rear timing gear train.
In the past I have encountered such style couplings, in other applications, they were found assembled with the drive key in the bolt clamp split and not the provided keyway--I also feel that the drive shafts have grooves cut in the shafts to allow the bolts to be fitted with the coupling only in the correct position and obviously this safety feature would preclude miss-timing happening, BUT stranger things have happened.
I also agree that failed injection pump cam bearings, lifter rollers and or cam lobe face in the high load lift area will retard the timing making starting difficult.
Just came to mind that D8K's had a support ring shrunk onto the cam end to help stop the drive loads from fracturing one of the the slot edges and so cause retarded timing too.
With the shrink ring in place it can be difficult to spot if the slot edge is broken as it is held in place by a lip on the face of the ring.
Well worn drive tang and/or slot will retard timing. This is where Lifter setting on the engine takes out the wear factors.
Sorry hope, to not confuse things more---Just thinking aloud.
Am out again tomorrow so just throwing some ideas before it is too late and the pump is refitted and these things not checked.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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