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3 years 11 months ago #222643
by janmeermans
Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope......... was created by janmeermans
Folks,
Since last updating our software in 2013, the technical world has moved forward and one of the conditions in today's world remains internet security. For better protection, password requirements are now more complicated. In order to provide the best protection for your account security, we are asking that your password contain "no spaces, be 6 characters containing lower and upper case letters, a number and a special sign"
We have tried to make the transition as painless as possible and to do that, old passwords from vBulletin remain active but new folks or others who are having difficulties are being required to use the new password formula set out above. It is in your best interest to change your password to match the new requirements but we are not insisting that you do that. If you request a new password, the temporary password that you receive is computer generated and we have no control of that function. Just move ahead and change it to your liking. Believe me, Mary Clarke is not sitting in the office dreaming up how she can complicate your life further by making up weird and long passwords!
Life can be difficult and keeping track of passwords for me is a pain in the neck so I am not immune from this complication either.
We have also asked the developer to move the Private Message Envelope up into the Yellow Bar similar to our old situation. He will be working on that. It now appears next to the "Location Hover over Pin" on the left margin.
The changes to the Forum will be addressed as time allows when other things are not demanding higher priorities.
Jan Meermans, Chair Magazine and Website Committee, ACMOC Director
Since last updating our software in 2013, the technical world has moved forward and one of the conditions in today's world remains internet security. For better protection, password requirements are now more complicated. In order to provide the best protection for your account security, we are asking that your password contain "no spaces, be 6 characters containing lower and upper case letters, a number and a special sign"
We have tried to make the transition as painless as possible and to do that, old passwords from vBulletin remain active but new folks or others who are having difficulties are being required to use the new password formula set out above. It is in your best interest to change your password to match the new requirements but we are not insisting that you do that. If you request a new password, the temporary password that you receive is computer generated and we have no control of that function. Just move ahead and change it to your liking. Believe me, Mary Clarke is not sitting in the office dreaming up how she can complicate your life further by making up weird and long passwords!
Life can be difficult and keeping track of passwords for me is a pain in the neck so I am not immune from this complication either.
We have also asked the developer to move the Private Message Envelope up into the Yellow Bar similar to our old situation. He will be working on that. It now appears next to the "Location Hover over Pin" on the left margin.
The changes to the Forum will be addressed as time allows when other things are not demanding higher priorities.
Jan Meermans, Chair Magazine and Website Committee, ACMOC Director
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3 years 11 months ago #222656
by neil
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope.........
To make life easier, your browser can remember your passwords for you so you don't have to. You can always look the pw up in the browser's settings if you want to see what it is. When you login, clicking either the user or pw field will pop up a prompt to used the saved credentials. I do this all the time.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #222667
by D4Jim
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D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
Replied by D4Jim on topic Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope.........
Well I’ll be darned!! I was typing away on an epistle and all at once it disappeared, just like the old board. So will start over again.
The password generated by the magic computer that is 12 characters long is absurd and I find it hard to believe it could not be shortened. Even Chase, Bank America, Ameritrade don’t have such complicated requirements. It seems rather odd that the generated password for a lost password does not have to have a special character. The one I got a few minutes ago was SwAUb5hSgVph. It takes 20 strokes to get it into an iphone or ipad. I understand the requirement for the 6 character password but why the 12 characters with the temporary one?
It is so much simpler to use the challenge question approach to retrieve a lost password. You answer the challenge question and the password is emailed to your email address of record. My challenge question is how many bushels does the 30000 bushel bin hold? Much simpler than getting a 12 character string that one is most likely to reset anyway.
Progress is being made and that is a big plus!!
Hardware: iPhone, iPad and Dell PC Desktop with Windows 10 and Firefox.
PS: This little gem of a mix-up has caused me a lot of grief and may have caused others the same while logging in.
My user name in my profile is D4Jim. Capital D and Capital J. However, on the web page with the avatar and title on postings it is D4jim. Small j. That has to be a system problem, that does not transfer it across. If I go to a posting and log in with that user name, (with the small j) it will not let me log in. On this board it is difficult to tell the small j from the capital J and I am sure there are some other letters in the same category. As I write this the red D4Jim is Capital J yet when I go to preview it is a lower case j. Something is not right and I wonder what will be posted.
Checking now the post is correct but the preview is not!! How about that?
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
The password generated by the magic computer that is 12 characters long is absurd and I find it hard to believe it could not be shortened. Even Chase, Bank America, Ameritrade don’t have such complicated requirements. It seems rather odd that the generated password for a lost password does not have to have a special character. The one I got a few minutes ago was SwAUb5hSgVph. It takes 20 strokes to get it into an iphone or ipad. I understand the requirement for the 6 character password but why the 12 characters with the temporary one?
It is so much simpler to use the challenge question approach to retrieve a lost password. You answer the challenge question and the password is emailed to your email address of record. My challenge question is how many bushels does the 30000 bushel bin hold? Much simpler than getting a 12 character string that one is most likely to reset anyway.
Progress is being made and that is a big plus!!
Hardware: iPhone, iPad and Dell PC Desktop with Windows 10 and Firefox.
PS: This little gem of a mix-up has caused me a lot of grief and may have caused others the same while logging in.
My user name in my profile is D4Jim. Capital D and Capital J. However, on the web page with the avatar and title on postings it is D4jim. Small j. That has to be a system problem, that does not transfer it across. If I go to a posting and log in with that user name, (with the small j) it will not let me log in. On this board it is difficult to tell the small j from the capital J and I am sure there are some other letters in the same category. As I write this the red D4Jim is Capital J yet when I go to preview it is a lower case j. Something is not right and I wonder what will be posted.
Checking now the post is correct but the preview is not!! How about that?
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
ACMOC Member 25 years
D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
Last edit: 3 years 11 months ago by D4Jim. Reason: User Name and User name shown are different
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3 years 11 months ago #222673
by neil
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope.........
Jim, for what it's worth, you can save that pw in your browser then you don't have to bother typing it in, and it doesn't matter what it is because you don't have to remember it - Firefox has that capability as do most browsers these days. I do that even with the passwords I do know. Saves butter fingers for me. For the losing the epistle thing (and I use this anywhere, not just here on the forum), for anything long I'm typing up, I type it in something like Notepad or Word because some website widgets don't retain what's been typed meaning a mistaken delete cannot be undone. Been burned by that enough times that I type it elsewhere now. I wouldn't do it for something as short as this response but a one pager for sure.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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3 years 11 months ago #222696
by Cat Yellow1
Replied by Cat Yellow1 on topic Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope.........
Neil - congrats on 5k posts.
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3 years 11 months ago #222698
by neil
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic Why the complicated passwords.......? The Private Message envelope.........
Wow, thanks, I didn't notice that. I'm sure the signal to noise ratio is quite low ; )
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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