-
Forum
-
Antique Caterpillar Machinery Owners Club
-
DISCUSSION
-
D4 pony vapor lock?
D4 pony vapor lock?
Less
More
-
Posts: 66
-
Thank you received: 11
-
4 years 2 months ago #220281
by Reisingerweld
hey guys i had my pony running really well a few months ago after getting the carb rebuilt now once i go to restart the machine after its hot the pony acts like its not getting fuel like a vapor lock is this a dirty carb once again, i pulled it apart to blow carb and choke cleaner though the passages but maybe i didnt get somthing all the way clean again
D4 6U9483SP
Hyster D4N winch
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 1006
-
Thank you received: 191
-
4 years 2 months ago #220285
by D4Jim
Might be caused by junk in the fuel line. I'm a firm believer in installing an inline filter in the pony fuel line.
Or you may be using gas formulated for winter rather than summer and it could be the problem. Most characteristic vapor locks are caused by the fuel pump in the system and of course a fuel pump is lacking in the pony fuel system. Are you using "regular" gasoline or an ethanol blend? Probably maybe overkill but I use non ethanol gasoline and add a lead substitute additive for all the pony fuel.
PS: My pony's always start easier when cold then when hot. One of the reasons I like the electric start pony.
ACMOC Member 25 years
D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 602
-
Thank you received: 103
-
4 years 2 months ago #220291
by Fat Dan
hey guys i had my pony running really well a few months ago after getting the carb rebuilt now once i go to restart the machine after its hot the pony acts like its not getting fuel like a vapor lock is this a dirty carb once again, i pulled it apart to blow carb and choke cleaner though the passages but maybe i didnt get somthing all the way clean again
Not to throw a wrench in your spokes. But you just described the exact problem with a bad coil, warms up and gets no spark. I hope you’re right. I’m not there listening to the engine so you may very well be right just thought I’d let you know that the coil could also be a cause. Good luck.
Fat Dan
ACMOC Membership
955E 12A08263; 955C 12A04040; 955C 12A03563.
No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 6132
-
Thank you received: 409
-
4 years 2 months ago #220315
by neil
A bad condensor can do that too - swapping out the condensor is trivial so put that on your list to try. I also had a bad experience with plug wires in my car which had a hot start problem. Changed the wires and it's perfect now. Also a trivial change-out. Try the easy stuff first.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 1380
-
Thank you received: 118
-
4 years 2 months ago #220318
by Ray54
Electrical stuff just makes me pull my hair out,
and I do my best to stay away. So for what it is worth.
Put new parts in but from many episodes all over the tractor world,DON"T PITCH THE OLD ONES. To many cases people have to put the old stuff back because a 1/4 or more of the "new" China made stuff is no good. As well as praise to what ever higher power you wish to have a electric starter on the pony.
From the guy coast starting a D6 for 2 years. I got help with the mag 2 months latter it was dead again. So on a hill it is
gravity has not failed me yet.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 66
-
Thank you received: 11
-
4 years 2 months ago #220369
by Reisingerweld
So thank God it is an electric start pony, the electrical side was the first thing I check pulled the plugs out and held it to the block to check for spark and while it's hot it did have a nice big blue spark as it should. I do have an inline filter ( heaven knows I haven't changed it in a while tho) and when I did my rebuild I also had the fuel tank acid etched and epoxy coated the inside by a local radiator shop. Unfortunately it's leaning more and more toward needing another full carb rebuild, I have yet to really try adjusting the fuel screws though. Maybe running to lean when hot? (If that's possible?)
D4 6U9483SP
Hyster D4N winch
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 6132
-
Thank you received: 409
-
4 years 2 months ago #220392
by neil
The good news is that the carb is trivial to sort out
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 478
-
Thank you received: 67
-
4 years 2 months ago #220405
by kittyman1
Electrical stuff just makes me pull my hair out, and I do my best to stay away. So for what it is worth.
Put new parts in but from many episodes all over the tractor world,DON"T PITCH THE OLD ONES. To many cases people have to put the old stuff back because a 1/4 or more of the "new" China made stuff is no good. As well as praise to what ever higher power you wish to have a electric starter on the pony.
From the guy coast starting a D6 for 2 years. I got help with the mag 2 months latter it was dead again. So on a hill it is gravity has not failed me yet.
-i understand not PITCHING every component of the electrical system automatically, but there are times when you need to thin out the herd to be certain you don't have a bad item....otherwise it gets into the mix again and could be faulty...and you end up chasing your tail again...and wasting a lot of time..
i have a neighbour that has never thrown out any electrical item in his entire life....and he constantly struggles with anything electrical..or anything with spark(gasoline)
-last electrical problem i had was with a gas lawnmower...it would quit when hot...i was changing coils, condensers...finally changed the spark plug(duh).....hasn't missed a beat for 3 years...
Greatest Lie told to mankind: just give us 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
-
Posts: 652
-
Thank you received: 20
-
4 years 2 months ago #220408
by 8C 361
. I do have an inline filter ( heaven knows I haven't changed it in a while tho) e
I think this is your problem. I would not consider using a inline filter on a gravity system unless it was a screen type. Especially a system with so little gravity.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
-
Forum
-
Antique Caterpillar Machinery Owners Club
-
DISCUSSION
-
D4 pony vapor lock?
Time to create page: 0.167 seconds