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4 years 3 months ago #218350
by caterpillarsam
Hello again all
Got another joyful question for you,
I have had my crankshaft ground so I’m of course going to use undersize bearings
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do I also need to use undersize crankshaft seals?
If so I will need part numbers etc
On a side note, I imagine I am not the only one looking forward to watching squatch253 start building a donkey engine for his 5J
D2 3J
WW2 Huber three wheel road roller (D3400 engine)
1937 Twenty Two
Cat SCOTE engine
Allen Oxford drawbar grader
1944 D7 4T1154
D8 8R
1956 David Brown 25C
1954 DW-15 scraper 45C653
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4 years 3 months ago #218356
by neil
Great question - when I did both of mine (5U and 3J pony engines), I didn't think about the seal size so I'm glad you pulled up this question. Mine are 030 I think but they don't leak and have the standard Cat part # seals in them
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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4 years 3 months ago #218358
by caterpillarsam
Great question - when I did both of mine (5U and 3J pony engines), I didn't think about the seal size so I'm glad you pulled up this question. Mine are 030 I think but they don't leak and have the standard Cat part # seals in them
Hmm interesting, i will definitely make a note of that.
Hopefully someone on this group will be able to shed more light on the topic
Are the U donkeys any different to the J donkeys? Obviously things like electric start
D2 3J
WW2 Huber three wheel road roller (D3400 engine)
1937 Twenty Two
Cat SCOTE engine
Allen Oxford drawbar grader
1944 D7 4T1154
D8 8R
1956 David Brown 25C
1954 DW-15 scraper 45C653
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4 years 3 months ago #218369
by Fat Dan
Thanks great info to know
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955E 12A08263; 955C 12A04040; 955C 12A03563.
No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320
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4 years 3 months ago #218377
by BillWalter
Take the spring out of seal, unwind the spring, cut off a couple of rounds of seal, then screw the seal back together. This will tighten the seal around the shaft a little tighter.
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4 years 3 months ago #218380
by Mike Meyer
Exact same basic donkey motor, just subtle changes to the bolt on stuff like upper manifold and heads over the years and models, none of the Parts Number books lists a seal for undersize cranks to go with the undersize bearings, so I assume Cat didn't think it necessary.
If you were running the pilot motor 8 hours a day I'd be concerned, but generally they are lucky to run 15 minutes max, most times 5 minutes, can't figure much oil could be lost in that time past the seals.
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4 years 3 months ago #218392
by neil
I agree Mike. I have not put any oil in my ponies since the initial set of runs after rebuilding (first start, flush, couple of runs, another flush and done) and they're about halfway down the stick. I can't see any leakage on the flywheel end seal. Who knows about the other end but the pinion chamber has not gone up at least.
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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