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4 years 4 months ago #216697
by STEPHEN
Here are the instructions from Servicemens Reference Book- Form 30524-1 with a date of 4-56-. It says to press both bearings flush on the inside with the holes aligned, then drill, ream, & install the dowel. The crank will be centered correctly. I'm not saying other methods haven't been successful, only that I have done it the book way & the machine still works fine, of course nothing can be made "sailor proof" as we used to say. Also see the passages about the end clearance & how it is regulated.
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4 years 4 months ago #216708
by Cat Yellow1
Neil and Stephen - thanks for your insight. That helps a lot. The bearings were installed by the machine shop and the front bearing is pretty close to flush to the inside of the block. I've measured the play with a dial caliper and it shows about .1" or about 3/16" of play. It is outside the specs for allowable end play, but I'm wondering if I should go in and mess with it. Looks like if I do, my options are to 1) purchase a new bearing and set it closer towards the inside of the block, or 2) add shims to take up the excess gap. Thoughts?
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4 years 4 months ago #216710
by drujinin
Didn't that fellow "Uncle Charlie"(?) from Wisconsin(?) 4 or 5 years ago, have one where he made a "Shoulder Bearing" (Thrust Spacer)?
I remember reading a Thread on making custom Bearings that had a shoulder machined on them to set thrust?
Or am I out in Left Field??
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4 years 4 months ago #216721
by STEPHEN
Neil and Stephen - thanks for your insight. That helps a lot. The bearings were installed by the machine shop and the front bearing is pretty close to flush to the inside of the block. I've measured the play with a dial caliper and it shows about .1" or about 3/16" of play. It is outside the specs for allowable end play, but I'm wondering if I should go in and mess with it. Looks like if I do, my options are to 1) purchase a new bearing and set it closer towards the inside of the block, or 2) add shims to take up the excess gap. Thoughts?
With that much end play, I question if the crank gear has been drawn up to the shoulder. If it has, then check to see where the metal is missing from. Measure the length of the bearing and compare to a new one. If the crank shoulder has been ground down you might need a spacer to restore the correct end position.
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4 years 4 months ago #216722
by neil
If your current bearing is in good shape, just rotate it and drill a new hole at the clearance you need. Stephen you're right of course : ). I think why I wrote what I wrote is because I went the thrust washer route so I had to work with the machinist to make sure the crank was centered. We ended up with the washers of different thicknesses because we machined different amounts off the cover and the rear of the block.
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Neil
Pittsford, NY
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4 years 4 months ago #216731
by Ray54
As Neil said make a new whole for dowel. That is what the old timers did when my pony was overhauled 30+ years ago.
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4 years 4 months ago #216779
by kittyman1
maybe i missed it, but what is the endplay spec in thousands of an inch?
-automotive experience again......006-.010"....?
Greatest Lie told to mankind: just give us 2 weeks to flatten the curve!
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4 years 4 months ago #216789
by edb
Hi Team,
posted yet again. 0.010" to 0.015", Max 0.025"
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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4 years 4 months ago #216805
by Cat Yellow1
Didn't that fellow "Uncle Charlie"(?) from Wisconsin(?) 4 or 5 years ago, have one where he made a "Shoulder Bearing" (Thrust Spacer)?
I remember reading a Thread on making custom Bearings that had a shoulder machined on them to set thrust?
Or am I out in Left Field??
drujinin, I think this is the thread you are referring to from Uncle Rich -
www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?17425-D2...haft-thrust-bearings
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4 years 4 months ago #216809
by neil
That's where I got my inspiration from, Uncle Rich's implementation. Works well, looks good too when you see the generously sized thrust washers. The main bearings are recessed about 020 so there's no chance of contact with the crank cheek or thrust washer. No science involved in figuring out whether lubrication would be ok but it's run flawlessly since reassembly. My 3J's pony was done the traditional way and also works well.
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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