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Pivot shaft end play

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4 years 5 months ago #216290 by hfdzl
Pivot shaft end play was created by hfdzl
Anyone have pivot shaft end play or side play dimension for D2? I have diametrical clearance.

Thanks, stay safe-

R2 5E3562 SP U.S.A. W.9151
R2 5E3563 SP U.S.A. W.9152

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4 years 5 months ago #216309 by edb
Replied by edb on topic Pivot Shaft End Play
Hi,
I seem to recall that the pivot shaft is held firmly to the transmission case by one of the two 4 bolt caps that has a dowel in it for this purpose. In that case there should be no movement or the shaft will fret and wear itself and the case etc.

If perchance you are actually referring to the end float of the track frames upon the pivot shaft, this is set by the thickness of the thrust washer bolted to the end of the pivot shaft and the counter bore depth in the shaft end cap--the gasket thickness would play a part in this clearance too, but, if all genuine parts were used then the unspecified factory designed clearance would result.
I guess you then could use a thinner gasket to achieve an acceptable end clearance or a thicker thrust washer.

The shims under the pivot shaft end washer are used to achieve correct track frame rear roller to sprocket centralized alignment.

Cheers,
Eddie B.

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4 years 5 months ago #216327 by hfdzl
Replied by hfdzl on topic Pivot shaft end play
EDB, thanks for the reply. i am actually doing by R2/22 thought it would be close. Apparently different construction.

Any ideas? .03 to .090? or just easy movement with no slop? I realize that this bearing not actually move a lot in service.

R2 5E3562 SP U.S.A. W.9151
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4 years 4 months ago #216332 by dpendzic
Replied by dpendzic on topic Pivot shaft end play
when i did my D2 undercarriage I had over 1 1/2 inches side play at the front idlers---this was from track frame twisting due to worn bushings on the pivot shaft
new bushings brought it down to about 1/2 inch

D2, D3, D4, D6, 941B, Cat 15
Hancock Ma and Moriches NY

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4 years 4 months ago #216336 by josh
Replied by josh on topic Pivot shaft end play
From the D2 Servicemen's Reference Book.
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4 years 4 months ago #216344 by hfdzl
Replied by hfdzl on topic Thanks all-
Thanks Josh, I shimmed my R2 pivot shaft so there was no side to side movement felt by HAND. I tend to overthink things sometimes. The track frames only pivot a few inches and so extremely slow moving. The objective is so they move and have no excess play. Greased well and they move nicely.

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4 years 4 months ago #216362 by edb
Hi,
the shims, as I described, adjust the position of the sprocket centre line to the rear roller centre line, so as the track links do not rub on one side of the sprocket teeth as well as causing the track links to run against one side of a roller flange from being off centre. Around 0.030"--0.040" end play should be acceptable.

The 2 Tons I had, used shims inside and outside of the track frame pivot bearing housing ends to centralize the T/Frame.
Now knowing we are talking about a 22 I can see in my Parts Book that they appear to be a similar set up.
Not sure if Bruceoz's 22 pages have this data or not.

Scan below is from a D7, but it illustrates what I am trying to convey about centering to the rear roller and sprocket centre lines.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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4 years 4 months ago #216367 by hfdzl
Replied by hfdzl on topic Pivot shaft end play
This is the entire assembly on my saw horses. All measurements were taken from the centerline and from the spacing of the pivot shaft brackets.

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4 years 4 months ago #216400 by edb
Replied by edb on topic Track Frames
Hi Herb,
OK, it now becomes clearer where you are at and what type of pivot you are working with.

If you have already spaced the track frames to coincide both of the rear rollers and sprockets centre lines you may need to shift shims to centralize the rear rollers to the sprockets yet--time will tell.
Looking good there.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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