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4 years 5 months ago #215371
by BigAgCat
In case people want to hear or see a D6 5R being started.
I do a combination of pony and electric start because I haven't replaced my pony starter clutch and pinion mechanism yet.
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4 years 5 months ago #215395
by neil
I enjoyed the smoke coming off your battery terminals : )
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Pittsford, NY
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4 years 5 months ago #215400
by BigAgCat
I enjoyed the smoke coming off your battery terminals : )
Hehe, I didn't realize that was happening until I watched the video myself.
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4 years 5 months ago #215407
by Raeme
Hi Mate. I would be definitely be putting time into sorting out your pony situation, it runs extremely well and clean, easiest one I’ve seen start in a long time. I suggest that because the way it will end up is a destroyed starter motor and cooked batteries and terminals etc, the way those terminals were cooking was an indicator that your leads And starter solenoid would be smoking hot. That isn’t going to end well. Also just out of interest is that a Semi auto pistol tucked in your waistband?? Enjoy the tractor mate, they are nice machine that will do a good job for you. Cheers
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4 years 5 months ago #215408
by BigAgCat
Hi Mate. I would be definitely be putting time into sorting out your pony situation, it runs extremely well and clean, easiest one I’ve seen start in a long time. I suggest that because the way it will end up is a destroyed starter motor and cooked batteries and terminals etc, the way those terminals were cooking was an indicator that your leads And starter solenoid would be smoking hot. That isn’t going to end well. Also just out of interest is that a Semi auto pistol tucked in your waistband?? Enjoy the tractor mate, they are nice machine that will do a good job for you. Cheers
I think the smoking was from the gunk that gets on my battery clamps. I disconnect and take the batteries home to recharge them after each use so the terminal connectors get a bit dirty. Now that I see it smoking like that I may see about cleaning them for the next use. The nice thing about the electric start is if you stall the engine or turn the diesel off, you can start it back up in like half a second instead of grab your pony rope.
And yes, I try to carry my pistol with me when I can just in case. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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4 years 5 months ago #215411
by daron
Cat used to say not to run electric starters more than 30 seconds then allow to cool at least two minutes between starting attempts.
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4 years 5 months ago #215417
by Raeme
I think the smoking was from the gunk that gets on my battery clamps. I disconnect and take the batteries home to recharge them after each use so the terminal connectors get a bit dirty. Now that I see it smoking like that I may see about cleaning them for the next use. The nice thing about the electric start is if you stall the engine or turn the diesel off, you can start it back up in like half a second instead of grab your pony rope.
And yes, I try to carry my pistol with me when I can just in case. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Hi Mate. Obviously hard for me to tell this far away. But I really suspect the smoke is because how long the starter is been wound for. Dirty terminals or loose on a 24volt system will burn the terminals off like a blow torch, watching the Vid I really believe that if you wind a starter that long constant you will over heat the Armature and windings and damage the starter. Try and have a break between winding over, don’t run it any longer then a minute continuous if you can. Also mate I know I’m sounding like a typical “ keyboard warrior “ apologies for that, but can I suggest maybe a thigh holster for the Pistol? I know you guys carry them over there like we do our mobile phones. But 15 yrs in the Army, It makes my blood run cold seeing a weapon carried in a less then safe way. Take care, cheers
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4 years 5 months ago #215418
by kittyman1
I think the smoking was from the gunk that gets on my battery clamps. I disconnect and take the batteries home to recharge them after each use so the terminal connectors get a bit dirty. Now that I see it smoking like that I may see about cleaning them for the next use. The nice thing about the electric start is if you stall the engine or turn the diesel off, you can start it back up in like half a second instead of grab your pony rope.
And yes, I try to carry my pistol with me when I can just in case. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
- i would also check your battery voltage when you get it started and again after a few minutes, just to make sure all is well with regulator/alternator....ya dirty terminals could make smoke, try to keep them clean as possible, its a lot of current draw
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4 years 5 months ago #215428
by neil
BAC, I like the way you're thinking - when I stall at the show and there's a bunch of chicks watching (there's always chicks watching sophisticated dudes running big gear...), it'd be quicker and easier to just hit the button to get the engine running again. In my situation, I have a 6v system so options are limited but.... I'm willing to give rigging up a 6V starter to try to see if it would start the main when it was stalled hot. I figure pop the compression, hit the button, then throw the compression once it's spinning over. My battery is an Optima 6v with 800CCA so I think it would have enough juice for a quick restart - just need the main engine to spin over fast enough so would need to find a suitably sized motor. Probably the way to see if this hare-brained scheme would work would be to see how slow the main engine could turn and still start, when hot. That's easy to experiment with with the pony. Now if only they'd let me out of jail to go tinker with the tractor!
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Neil
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4 years 5 months ago #215429
by BigAgCat
Hi Mate. Obviously hard for me to tell this far away. But I really suspect the smoke is because how long the starter is been wound for. Dirty terminals or loose on a 24volt system will burn the terminals off like a blow torch, watching the Vid I really believe that if you wind a starter that long constant you will over heat the Armature and windings and damage the starter. Try and have a break between winding over, don’t run it any longer then a minute continuous if you can. Also mate I know I’m sounding like a typical “ keyboard warrior “ apologies for that, but can I suggest maybe a thigh holster for the Pistol? I know you guys carry them over there like we do our mobile phones. But 15 yrs in the Army, It makes my blood run cold seeing a weapon carried in a less then safe way. Take care, cheers
The starter is meant to do the cranking the pony would normally do. I don't know what other people that have added the direct start do as it seems necessary to crank the diesel to help build up heat. It seems to me that an electric motor is an electric motor, even if it is a "starter" but I can see how the solenoid could be the one that may want to give out with all the cranking. I'll be replacing the pony starter pinion soon, since I still use the pony I'll be doing the cranking with the pony.
As far as how I carry my pistol. This is a normal way of carry for all people here in the U.S. It is like an OWB holster but IWB. It is meant to help conceal it under your shirt or other upper body piece of clothing by having it inside the waistband. People choose this way of carry because they want to avoid the occasional confrontation from the self proclaimed do gooder that wants to save the world from people who carry a firearm as part of their normal daily activities. However, I am open to other ways to carry. This way just seems the best so far because of ease of access. Personally, I would like to carry my rifle slinged on my back at all times, but I think that would be a bit more inconvenient to carry and do daily life things. Also a bit more alarming to people and a little more attention getting.
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