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16 years 11 months ago #10394 by carlsharp
Is this crack bad? was created by carlsharp
This is on the front cover of my Cat 22. Is this a nuisance crack or something that needs attention?

A contributing factor may be the bracket that holds up the radiator. It is broken and the center is missing.

Will either of these problems affect the operation of this Cat?

Carl Sharp
Chino, CA
2xPV15; 22 2F; D4 5T
Various other oddball stuff
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16 years 11 months ago #10400 by Cat Spotter
Replied by Cat Spotter on topic Is this crack bad?
<A contributing factor may be the bracket that holds up the radiator. It is broken and the center is missing.>

One possible cause is that it's always tempting to slip a hook over that thin edge of the cast iron bracket when winching up onto a trailer or using the Cat to pull something backwards attached to a chain. One guess is that many years ago someone did exactly that, and snapped out a big section of the casting.

How do I know this - never mind! :D - Richard

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16 years 11 months ago #10408 by Dunefanatic
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Carl,

If you do not correct crank will continue to migrate and could cross into critical area of the block. As it is that holds up your radiator and if you have ever removed it you know that radiator is close to 200lbs so it's probably worth the effort to clean it up and hit is with cast iron rod. I am not sure about the alloy content needed but there are some welders on this BB who can guide you.

Greg

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16 years 11 months ago #10409 by Mike Mahler
Replied by Mike Mahler on topic Is this crack bad?
From the looks of the crack, it IS in a pretty critical spot. From what I see the bracket the is cracked is a front support for the engine and and harder you work the rig the more this crack could be a problem. Research you area and the welders and find one that is well experienced in cast iron welding as cast is a very picky metal to weld. Experience will determine the difference of the weld lasting the life of the rig vs rebreaking in another spot close to this one.
MIke

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16 years 11 months ago #10412 by D2Dwyer
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There is an entire industry that responds to repairs in castings. It usually involves bolting, tie plates, welding and secondary supports. The firms specializing in this are probably beyond our means, but studying their web sites can suggest some supplemental repairs to welding alone.

www.casting-repairs.com/machinery.htm

I googled casting repair, lots of stuff came up. Hope you get a good idea out of the effort.

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16 years 10 months ago #10510 by Oz22
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Hello Carl
The radiator support was broken in a similar fashion on my 22 and was mig welded after pre heating. The missing pieces were replaced with 1/4 inch plate and has stood up to a lot of punishment. As stated the radiator weighs a considerable amount and without the complete support bracket it looks to have broken your timing case. Ask on this site if anybody is parting out a 22 before welding you housings, it may be cheaper and will look better if good parts are around. You could get lucky.

OZ22

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16 years 10 months ago #10528 by D2Dwyer
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Sandman has a few tractors he sells parts off

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